Are you a teacher who once taught in Thailand but decided to seek out pastures new? Has the grass been greener on the other side? Maybe you swapped Thailand for the financial lure of Japan or Korea? Read about those who have left Thailand, and their reasons for moving...
Chris Harkins
Q1. Where did you move to and when?
From Bankhae Bangkok- Youngin City South Korea
Q2. How long did you work in Thailand?
about a year and a half
Q3. What was your main reason for moving?
It was definitely for the money. I love Thailand but the pay is really low compared to Korea
Q4. What are the advantages of working where you are now compared to Thailand?
Money Money Money, my salary here in Korea is over 100,000 baht and the extra work I can do such as private tutoring will get me an average of 1,400 to 2,000 baht an hour.
Q5. What do you miss about life in Thailand?
The fun , the cheap taxis, the nightlife, the soi dogs and the bad television acting
Q6. Would you advise a new teacher to seek work in Thailand or where you are now?
I think that Korea is a wonderful place to save up money. The transportation system is good and they will pay for your apartment but the people here seem too serious. They aren't rude by any means but It's definitely not the land of smiles.
Q7. Any plans to return to Thailand one day?
Yes definitely, I love Thailand and my wife is Thai so I'll be back as soon as I have saved enough money to buy a house or something.
Q8. Anything else you'd like to add?
Thailand is great but being broke in Thailand sucks. so go make money and then come back
Andy Francois
Q1. Where did you move to and when?
Saudi Arabia. I moved to Thailand in October 2002. At first I taught at a state college in Minburi for one 1 term and then moved on to a large state school just outside Bangkok.
Q2. How long did you work in Thailand?
One year.
Q3. What was your main reason for moving?
I left because working in the Thai state system proved to be nothing short of a 'nightmare', complete chaos (no books) and in the latter of the two schools a lot of back-stabbing.
Q4. What are the advantages of working where you are now compared to Thailand?
I went to Saudi Arabia for the money. People only come here for that reason.
Q5. What do you miss about life in Thailand?
I miss many things about Thailand. In particular I miss seeing women walking around. I also miss Tiger beer, the food, Koh Samet and other islands.
Q6. Would you advise a new teacher to seek work in Thailand or where you are now?
I would advise people to work in Thailand and Saudi Arabia. However, both the positive and negative aspects will have to be made clear to any prospective teacher.
Q7. Any plans to return to Thailand one day?
I love Thailand and spend many holidays there.
Q8. Anything else you'd like to add?
Don't take the teaching too seriously in Thailand, especially if you work in the state system. And, if you work in Bangkok make sure you escape at the weekend and see the beautiful places that Thailand has to offer.
Kris Kincaid
Q1. Where did you move to and when?
Vietnam. Better money, I'd never been and always wanted to go, and the location was right on the beach. Sounded perfect.
Q2. How long did you work in Thailand?
One year.
Q3. What was your main reason for moving?
I was a little fed up with Thailand and wanted to move on. Also wasn't getting any interest in having me stay from the administration at my school. They didn't have a high teacher retention rate.
Q4. What are the advantages of working where you are now compared to Thailand?
I'm not in VN currently. The advantages of working in Vietnam were, for me, that the pay was higher and the students significantly sharper. Ineptness and crookedness in administrative positions there was on par with Thailand, though.
Q5. What do you miss about life in Thailand?
The Vietnamese are in general a lot less pleasant than the Thais. Coming from Thailand Vietnam can be a tough transition: it's significantly less-developed, more chaotic, and harsher in many ways. I had a friend come in from Thailand to work in VN who loathed the place for a solid six months and constantly bemoaned the wonderful paradise he'd given up. My initial feelings about Vietnam were more ambiguous. I never hated the place but it took me awhile to be quite sure I liked it (whereas I loved Thailand from Day One). I never met anyone who moved from Thailand to Vietnam who made an initial favorable comparison of the latter.
Q6. Would you advise a new teacher to seek work in Thailand or where you are now?
Thailand over Vietnam for a first-timer in a heartbeat.
Q7. Any plans to return to Thailand one day?
Here now. Just on vacation. Teaching here again is unlikely, if not 100% off the table.
Q8. Anything else you'd like to add?
If a new teacher wants to live in a remarkably laid-back and nice place for a year or so, I've never been anywhere that beats Thailand. If one is looking for something a little more... "challenging," Vietnam is worth a go. My feeling about Thailand is that there are a wonderful array of superficial pleasures but there isn't terribly much depth. Vietnam takes a lot of getting used to, but the rewards, I think, are of a more lasting variety. Thailand isn't a place that prizes education, and the "mai ben rai" attitude that I initially found so refreshing became grating by the end of my year here. Vietnam is much more serious, much less immediately genial, but if you're willing to give it time and patience it has a lot going for it. It certainly ain't everyone's cuppa tea.
Bob Todd
Q1. Where did you move to and when?
I went back home to the UK, screaming and kicking I hasten to add, way back in September 1997
Q2. How long did you work in Thailand?
About 3 and a half years in total. Although I can't really call it work as much as voluntary entertainment. Most days I would slip on the invisible clown's outfit and amuse the class, any class, with lame jokes, funny faces, and stories that were so full of egotistical exaggerations that even the lies weren't true! All this for loose change which barely paid for a pie and a pint down at the Ole Ship Inn!
Q3. What was your main reason for moving?
Near death! Thailand is full of thrills and frolics for the better balanced members of society, but for a chronic alcoholic and borderline pharmaceutical drug addict, it's a free ride to hell.
Q4. What are the advantages of working where you are now compared to Thailand?
I don't really work any more. I ended up with a bit of a job allergy! Plus I've been back here (Thailand) for a few years now. There were no real advantages of working in the UK for those few years that I went back. I was employed as a slave in one of those modern day sweat shops. What do they call them now? Oh yeah, Call Centers!
Q5. What do you miss about life in Thailand?
Nothing cus I'm back! But when I was at home, I dearly missed the grub, the heat, the humidity, the pollution, the heckling, the hassling, the scamming, the Soi dogs, the pretty gals in dingy bars, and all the shattered people on the broken footpaths along the Sukhumvit road. Why? Because all this matches my insides, that’s why, and this makes me as happy as a pig in muck!
Q6. Would you advise a new teacher to seek work in Thailand or where you are now?
If they are young and just want to chill out or use Thailand as a training ground, then come here without further ado. If money is your thing, then sod off to where the cash is. You won't strike it rich over here in the teaching game, but you will get by so long as you don't have too many expensive habits or vulnerabilities.
If you're a near down-and-out coffin dodger, then you'd best find one of God's waiting rooms a little closer to home, wherever that is, or you may well end up as a physical, mental, and spiritual wreck before you can say 'Nana Plaza'. If you're over 55 and want to launch a Teaching career, go somewhere, how can I put it……………less suicidal!
Q7. Any plans to return to Thailand one day?
See 4 above.
Q8. Anything else you'd like to add?
No
Nick Scholfield
Q1. Where did you move to and when?
I moved to Tokyo 7 months ago.
Q2. How long did you work in Thailand?
For three years and four months.
Q3. What was your main reason for moving?
Personal development. After a while I felt like i was going backwards and needed to get back into the first world as my ways were becoming rather relaxed. I mostly love the Thai way of doing things, but when I felt myself developing too many of the local habits I felt that it was time to hit the road.
Q4. What are the advantages of working where you are now compared to Thailand?
Better money of course although i did manage to save a fair bit in Bangkok. I have enjoyed the four seasons and related activities as well as seeing how first world Asia works (which gets dull quick). After over three years in Thailand it was great to get out of the Thai bubble for a bit but having been there that long there is some indescribable force compelling me back there.
Q5. What do you miss about life in Thailand?
Everything - my daughter, the food, the people, the weather (kind of), the islands, chaos, smiles. I just got back from two weeks in Thailand and realised how much I have missed everything.
Q6. Would you advise a new teacher to seek work in Thailand or where you are now?
My advice would depend upon the character of the person of course. Easy going, fun loving, relaxed, simple - Thailand. deep, complex, intellectual - Japan.
Q7. Any plans to return to Thailand one day?
I would love to but I don't think I can teach ESL for too much longer. I would like to become a qualified teacher back in New Zealand then head back so I can be a part of my daughters life.
Q8. Anything else you'd like to add?
If resentment starts to set in - get out quick.
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